Comments on: Exploration and Explanation http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/ Information Retrieval Research, Issues, and Discussion Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:26:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: jeremy http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-4480 jeremy Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:48:25 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-4480 I don't think I've ever "sighted" Belkin 1980. But I have read ("sighted") Belkin 1982, "ASK for Information Retrieval: Part I Background and Theory" from The Journal of Documentation, Volume 38, Number 2, June 1982. In that, Belkin, Oddy, and Brooks lay out the entire ASK hypothesis. So I apologize for citing 1980 in my blogpost, when I've only read 1982. But I have indeed read the theoretical basis of the ASK notion, written by Belkin, from that time period. Were I writing a formal paper, I would make sure and track down 1980. I don’t think I’ve ever “sighted” Belkin 1980. But I have read (“sighted”) Belkin 1982, “ASK for Information Retrieval: Part I Background and Theory” from The Journal of Documentation, Volume 38, Number 2, June 1982. In that, Belkin, Oddy, and Brooks lay out the entire ASK hypothesis.

So I apologize for citing 1980 in my blogpost, when I’ve only read 1982. But I have indeed read the theoretical basis of the ASK notion, written by Belkin, from that time period. Were I writing a formal paper, I would make sure and track down 1980.

]]> By: Who has sighted (not just cited) Belkin 1980, “ASK”? « IREvalEtAl http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-4464 Who has sighted (not just cited) Belkin 1980, “ASK”? « IREvalEtAl Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:20 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-4464 [...] use of search engines as highly sophisticated keyword-matchers. Indeed, simple, crude tools whose operation is readily comprehensible may well be preferable to complex, highly-tuned tools whose operations are opaque. And if the [...] [...] use of search engines as highly sophisticated keyword-matchers. Indeed, simple, crude tools whose operation is readily comprehensible may well be preferable to complex, highly-tuned tools whose operations are opaque. And if the [...]

]]> By: Explanatory search « IREvalEtAl http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-4407 Explanatory search « IREvalEtAl Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:33:49 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-4407 [...] post, “Search is not magic”, comes a reference to Jeremy Picken’s concept of explanatory search (as a complement to exploratory search). The idea, as elaborated by Gene, is that it is not [...] [...] post, “Search is not magic”, comes a reference to Jeremy Picken’s concept of explanatory search (as a complement to exploratory search). The idea, as elaborated by Gene, is that it is not [...]

]]> By: FXPAL Blog » Blog Archive » Search is not Magic http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-4391 FXPAL Blog » Blog Archive » Search is not Magic Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:19:17 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-4391 [...] thus ultimately comprehensible) manner. Jeremy Pickens wrote about this concept, that he dubbed Explanatory Search, and Daniel Tunkleng has written about transparency in information retrieval. I would argue that [...] [...] thus ultimately comprehensible) manner. Jeremy Pickens wrote about this concept, that he dubbed Explanatory Search, and Daniel Tunkleng has written about transparency in information retrieval. I would argue that [...]

]]> By: Information Retrieval Gupf » Is the Ad-Sponsored Web Search Market a Conversation? http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Information Retrieval Gupf » Is the Ad-Sponsored Web Search Market a Conversation? Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:23:28 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-90 [...] Exploratory Search on the Web?Gene Golovchinsky on Why No Exploratory Search on the Web?jeremy on Exploration and ExplanationOtis Gospodnetic on Exploration and ExplanationInformation Retrieval Gupf » Creating [...] [...] Exploratory Search on the Web?Gene Golovchinsky on Why No Exploratory Search on the Web?jeremy on Exploration and ExplanationOtis Gospodnetic on Exploration and ExplanationInformation Retrieval Gupf » Creating [...]

]]> By: jeremy http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-28 jeremy Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:36:13 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-28 It's a changing world. Just like people are saying that the newspapers have to evolve or die. Or that the music industry has to evolve or die. Find new business models, find different ways of competitively distinguishing themselves. There is no point in propping up a failing system, just because they spent lots of money to gain competitive advantage. Same with search engines. They too have to adapt, and find a different way to gain competitive advantage. Will the entrenched search engines change? Probably not. No one likes to take their own medicine. But then we, the users, need to continually call attention to what we're missing out on when the search engines essentially lock up all the good/interesting/useful information behind their "digital rights management" (DRM) opaque and non-transparent algorithms. Because only then will conditions be right for something better to come along. Hmm.. did I just compare lack of search engine transparency to music DRM? I guess I did. I think the analogy fits. It’s a changing world. Just like people are saying that the newspapers have to evolve or die. Or that the music industry has to evolve or die. Find new business models, find different ways of competitively distinguishing themselves. There is no point in propping up a failing system, just because they spent lots of money to gain competitive advantage. Same with search engines. They too have to adapt, and find a different way to gain competitive advantage. Will the entrenched search engines change? Probably not. No one likes to take their own medicine. But then we, the users, need to continually call attention to what we’re missing out on when the search engines essentially lock up all the good/interesting/useful information behind their “digital rights management” (DRM) opaque and non-transparent algorithms. Because only then will conditions be right for something better to come along.

Hmm.. did I just compare lack of search engine transparency to music DRM? I guess I did. I think the analogy fits.

]]> By: Otis Gospodnetic http://irgupf.com/2009/03/09/exploration-and-explanation/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Otis Gospodnetic Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:17:51 +0000 http://irgupf.com/?p=95#comment-27 I'm for it, but what about the IP and competitive advantage for commercial engines? For example, Wikia Search could afford to expose everything - it didn't invest its time and money in building the search engine/crawler/etc. they used. GYM spent lots of millions of dollars on their sw to gain competitive advantage. I’m for it, but what about the IP and competitive advantage for commercial engines? For example, Wikia Search could afford to expose everything – it didn’t invest its time and money in building the search engine/crawler/etc. they used. GYM spent lots of millions of dollars on their sw to gain competitive advantage.

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